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Last Updated: January 5, 2022
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This is a great article, from which I have benefited since purchasing my AT3™ Magnified Red Dot with Laser Sight Kit – AT3 LEOS & RRDM 3x Magnifier, sometime ago now. I have astigmatism and wear corrective lenses. I have dealt succesfully with this “comma” issue, during my recreational shooting. I have now growing cataracts but not yet to the point of needing surgery. On my trip to the range yesterday. I found that when using the red dot alone in low brightness setting my dot was very small and sharp. Since I really like shooting at 100 yds, my sight of the 6″ bullseye is very bad and I can’t see those 1″ día red circles on the targets at all. So I got a new 5x magnifier and found that when aiming through it, I see a bunch of red dots.together, with perhaps one distinguished with a brighter color and the others in various degrees of fainting but still complicating the shot sight. I lower the magnification to 3.5 and th sight looked much better, the extra dots were still there but much less visible.
It seem my worsening cataracts conflict with the magnifier beyond the red dot/astigmatism problem.
Any one has had similar problem? Any recommendations to deal with this?
Thank you in advance.
Thanks very much for a very informative article!
I think you should revise this article to include the topic of green dots as a way to deal with astigmatic eyes. I’m almost 70 years old and I have astigmatism and a surgically-repaired detached retina in my dominant eye. The pistol optics with the tiny 2 or 3 MOA red-colored dots always appear as a double dot, and I can’t tell which one is the real dot.
Then I got a Holosun HE407K-GR X2 optic with a 6 MOA green-colored dot. Voila! Finally I see a solid dot with a crisp sharp perimeter. No double dot! Not enough optics are made with green dots… believe me, if you have astigmatism, try one. It will probably help you, but I think this article should at least mention them.
I have a slight astigmatism, which causes the dot on my Romeo5 to form a “comma”. After reading a lot of reviews of different sights, I came upon the Holosun 510C. Several reviews mentioned an improvement for shooters with astigmatism, so I tried one out. For my vision, the difference is remarkable, with everything appearing sharp and focused. Might be worth a look.
Astigmatism is mainly from a distorted cornea – often correctible with glasses, contacts or lasik surgery. However there’s another site blurrier for many – distorted macula (retinal distrotions). I got my corneas fixed but there is some residual blurriness due to aged, suboptimal macula. An good eye exam will tell the tale.
I recently purchased a Sig Sauer Romeo-MSR 1×20 green dot sight. The see thru, supposedly flip-up lens covers are incredibly hard to remove. This might be the dumbest question, but…can I just use the sight with the covers in place? They seem to lessen the slight blur I get from my astigmatism.
I have the MSR red dot and I don’t think I’ve ever flipped up the covers.
I wear prescription glasses with correction for astigmatism, but it’s still a mild problem for me. Since going to holo sights, it’s much less of an issue, especially when using a magnifier (the MOA of the dot remains the same).
One quick correction: the cornea is not the same as the lens of the eye. However, it can affect how light hits the lens. Think of it more like looking through a large plate glass window: things will look slightly distorted due to waviness in the glass even though your eyes are focusing fine.
I purchased a Sig Sauer Romeo 5 for my rifle. I have a $450 pair of polarized bifocal sunglasses with astigmatism correction in each eye. (These were my post cataract surgery glasses purchased through Medicare.) I normally have exceptional vision with these glasses. The first time I attempted to use my new RD sight I was shocked to see a red haze with about a hundred specks of “red glitter”. Reducing to the lowest brightness setting lessened this affect somewhat, but still unuseable. I put on my untinted trifocals with the same astigmatism correction and everything was fine. From this result I assumed the problem was either the the tint or polarization. This is only a problem when shooting on very sunny days when I would really like to have my “shades”.
Both my wife and I have the glitter effect using a new Romeo 5 but only with the sun, low in the sky behind us. The glitter is in the top third of the glass and disappears as orientation to the sun changes. As having the sun behind one can be advantageous , we find this effect distracting at best. I was shooting without glasses, she with. Again, we both saw the glitter pattern. I failed to say that the glitter was not a repeat pattern.
Any thoughts?
Ed Powers
Update to my own question. Just talked to Sig. The glitter effect is normal due to the red coating on the front glass. Remember that the sun is at our 6. I should also add that the glitter is only in the top right edge of the glass. This is our first Red Dot so we are stumbling thru so to speak.
Ed Powers
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I have the star effect on red dots, due to my astigmatism. Haven’t seen a brand that changes it, but down the brightness helps. But I’ve also found a flip-to-side 3x or 5x magnifier nullifies the blooming.
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Man. I bought my first red dot, and learned I have astigmatism. I see TWO sets of crosshairs slightly off from each other in my dominant eye. Even worse using the green dot; that adds a starburst effect. While I intend to go get my eyes checked, I was hoping a holographic site might help. At $300 I wish I knew someone that owned one already before throwing away money
Just received my sig msr and thought it was defective, guess not.
Thanks for the article great information.
Would a green dot optic have the same issues as the red dot?
Great article and full of very useful info. As a left handed shooter with a right eye dominance as well as a astigmatism I fought it for years.
10 years of competitive trapshooting and the travel and fees that go along with it I struggled to win in the beginning. I saw my MD, had my eyes checked and prescription glasses ordered. Made some changes allowing me to keep both eyes open and happy to say I ended my trapshooting years as a AA27AA.
Take the advice listed, get your eyes examined, get prescription shooting glasses if needed and look for different optics. It makes you a better shooter.
What about triangle sights like the trijicon delta rmr. I believe it’s a 12.5 MOA and you use the tip of the triangle for precision.
I found this out a couple of years ago. I got a Vortex Venom for a 9mm AR build and, I had a starburst instead of a dot. I called Vortex and, they were very helpful explaining the problem. They told me about the picture method and, sure enough, the dot was crisp in the picture. Anyway, the starburst isn’t very big so, I can still get rounds on target easily at 100 yards. That’s not bad for a 9mm with an 8″ barrel.
Wow!
First, thanks for the informative article. Last week I was trying out various friends red dots and knew something was up. I have an astigmatism with toric contacts or glasses for correction. Recently, I noticed when wearing contacts, my near field vision was going. Or if wearing glasses, I’d remove them for up close reading and measurements. While maintaining my sight picture, all mannerism of chaos was occurring because of the dot catching my focus causing some “odd” shots. Meanwhile, using iron sights, my aim was more true. Thanks for the information. At least now I can be sure the problem was me. Lower power brightness, focus through to down range, maybe a larger reticle, and green. Truly thanks.
I had ( kinda ) the same problem ! my red dot looked like a ‘broken plate’… I thought it was bad, until I tried 3 of ’em on my AR’s and they all looked the same !!!
My eyeball doctor said that I was growing a cataract, and that he hadn’t mentioned it because it wasn’t serious enough ( yet ) to worry about… I had the standard ‘lens’ replacement surgery and now my red dot looks just peachy… The only problem I have is when my 2 MOA dot covers up my 1 MOA target !!!
Hello, I just had a 4 hour carbine class for my new Ar-15 and after the 1 hour range time, the instructor could not get my red dot accurate. It was high, it was low, it was to the left, etc…. Can you recommend someone or someplace that can zero in my scope as i do not know how and I can watch YouTube videos all day however I want a professional to do this and would like to learn how for the future. Thanks, Tom 602-614-93198
If the instructor had issues getting your red dot to hit where it should it could be a faulty optic, bad or loose mount, or possibly even a bad rail. Start with trying the optic on a different rifle and go from there.
Hi Mark,
Thank you for your excellent and very informative article on astigmatism. One thing I noticed is that the blurring effect is mitigated by the use of green dots. My optician said that green is less disturbing than red. What do you think?
I have an astigmatism and own both red and green dot sights, the green is definitely better then the red. There is also a gold dot on the market now that is supposed to be great for people with color issues but not sure how it would work with an astigmatism.
As someone with mild astigmatism,i dont see any of these except the smear towards the top at extreme angles looking down(i have to look at the ground for the smear to go upwards)
I dont understand why people worry about what the dot looks like if its not multiples or a 1 moa it shouldnt matter on a handgun.
Valid point, most people who are using a rd on a pistol aren’t “bullseye” shooters anyway, an rd that doesn’t look perfectly round isn’t going to be an issue. Even (most) competition pistol shooters aren’t shooting for minimum moa/groups, it’s all about speed.
I see two whole dots, or two whole crosshairs. That certainly matters to me, even plinking…
First of All Thanks for such a great article. It is very helpful for a beginner like me. I just wanna ask that for turkey hunting, what should be the size of reticle? Is 4 MOA red dot reticle is good or not? Need your expert opinion.
Thanks for taking a timeout to read our articles. Whichever one you like better at 40yds. A lot of guys use the 4 with great results but then some thought 8 might be too large and still after trying it out they had no issues with it. Was nowhere near as large as they thought it would be. It really boils down to personal preference, in my opinion, a 4MOA is about perfect.
Having this very issue I have found green dots to be the way to go, they don’t tend to bleed like the red dots do
Very informative article and having an astigmatism in my left eye for better than 40+ years (now 70 years old) it is something I never considered.
Until recently (last 10 years) never invested much time in AR platforms and red dot scopes. Hog hunting with my sons in Texas twice a year has taught me otherwise. Being a traditional wooden stock guy has been my norm. Change over to semiauto in “evil” black has been a challenge for me in NYS, land of the Safe Act. Over the last 5 years I HAVE BUILT 5 AR-15’s (1 ea 5.56 and 4 ea 6.5G) and one AR-10 (7mm08) and left all of them in Texas. Easier than TSA inspection while flying and not NYS registered.
With all this being said, I noticed the red dot blurr phenomena as I progressed with my red dot scopes and finally said enough is enough and went to night vision and thermal on AR’s in question. Up until this article came to my attention I had found a solution in other scope technology however never understood why it was happening with red dot’s.
Thanks for the enlightenment and the article itself. As we say, “Good to Know!”
Bear in mind that astigmatism is only going to have that affect if uncorrected with lenses. If your prescription is up to date it is possible that other problems such as cataracts are causing aberrations that lenses cannot correct.
Good article, with a good explanation of what astigmatism does. Although I’m corrected with either glasses or contacts, as good as it can be, I still notice a slight imperfection in the dot. I’ve found that staying in the low dot intensity settings works best
Why does my red dot sight move around when shooting my M4?
If you mean you cant get it zeroed, make sure your sight is mounted correctly, if its on a picatinny type rail system, make sure it is pushed forward against the rail when tightening it down. This will stop any movement caused by recoil. Other than that check your shooting position, you can have an improper or inconsistent cheek weld etc. Worse case, you may have a faulty optic that won’t hold a zero.
Move the target farther you may be withing the parallax limits of the sight.
( note that some sight say parallax-free. They still have it at a short distance from the sight. )
Hi Mark,
We really appreciate your feedback. We work hard to put together an article like this to help AR-15 users understand the current issues, to give ideas and to provide suggestions. We’re glad you liked the article.
As a member of the rapidly increasing “old guys” demographic, I care less about tacticool and spray and pray as I once did. Some days, three holes touching in a paper 100 yds away is just as exciting as a huge pile of empty brass. This series addresses everyday issues and concerns that should benefit almost everyone that would invest the time to read them. I thank you for taking the time and doing the research for these articles, although they should really be titled as lessons. Good job!
Great article. Thanks, AT3. You continue to prove value added services for your customers.